Paul Ryan (R-WI) may have had his 15 minutes today.
The Democrats are touting an estimate from the Congressional Budget Office that their health-care bill would reduce the deficit by around $130 billion over the next ten years. What Ryan pointed out — and what no Democrat even attempted to counter — is that this is because the legislation front-loads tax hikes and Medicare cuts and defers costs, forcing the
CBO to score ten years of offsets with only six years of spending. Looked at on a level playing field, the true ten-year cost of the bill is $2.3 trillion rather than $950 billion, Ryan said.Then he brought up another gimmick: The bill is full of double-counting. “Savings” are counted as offsets for new health-care spending and at the same time set aside to pay for future entitlements. For instance, the Democrats claim $52 billion in offsets as a result of increasing Social Security payroll-tax revenues. But these dollars are already claimed for future Social Security beneficiaries. They can’t pay for both. The Democrats take another $72 billion in premiums intended to fund a new long-term-care program and count them as offsets for other spending. Ryan pointed out that Senate Budget Committee chairman Kent
Conrad has calledthis “a Ponzi scheme of the first order, the kind of thing that Bernie Madoff would have been proud of.”
Perhaps most important, Ryan confronted the Democrats with the issue of the “Doc Fix” — a separate bill that would have added $371 billion to the Democrats’ legislation if it hadn’t been stripped out. The Doc Fix would have prevented Medicare reimbursements to doctors from plummeting by 21 percent, a drop that Congress put into the bill to improve its CBO score but never planned to allow, most political observers agree.Obama responded to Ryan by saying he didn’t want to get “bogged down” in a debate over the numbers; instead, he dared Republicans to defend Medicare
Advantage , the program Democrats are planning to cut in order to generate some legitimate savings to pay for their new programs. But the merits of Medicare Advantage are irrelevant to Ryan’s critique, which, put simply, is:
1. Obama said he wouldn’t sign a bill that adds to the deficit;
2. The bill he supports clearly would; even though
3. Democrats have rigged the legislation to produce a deficit-neutralCBO score.Rep. Xavier
Becerra (D., Calif.) was the only Democrat who really attempted to address Ryan’s critique. First, he implied that Ryan was trying to question the integrity of the CBO. But Ryan’s critique calls into question the Democrats’ integrity, not the CBO’s, by pointing out that the CBO’s analysts must by law score what is set in front of them, and that what the Democrats have set in front of them is full of gimmicks designed to hide the cost of the bill.
Second, Becerra attempted to address the argument that by delaying certain spending provisions, the Democrats have hidden the bill’s true cost. He pointed out that the CBO has estimated that the Democrats’ bill would reduce the deficit by 0.5 percent of GDP in the second ten years, when all the spending would be included. But he failed to mention that the CBO’s estimate included the following caveat: “A detailed year-by-year projection for years beyond 2019 . . . would not be meaningful because the uncertainties involved are simply too great.”
Neither Obama nor Becerra — nor any other Democrat — addressed the issue of double-counting. And the only response to Ryan’s point about the Doc Fix was a rather oblique statement by Obama that “if what you’re saying is that we can’t make hard decisions on entitlements, then we’re in big trouble.” In fact, that’s exactly what conservatives have been saying: Not only can’t the political class make hard decisions on entitlements, the Democrats are trying to create a new entitlement and hide its cost. And if they succeed, we are in very big trouble.
There was no answer to Ryan's questions, because by doing so, the Democrats would be forced to admit their "plan" is full of gimmicks, double-counting, and impossibilities. So they did the next best thing, and spoke about "difficult choices on entitlements", and questioned his "attack" on the CBO.
The American People are smarter than Democrats (I'm looking at you, Valerie Jarrett!) give them credit for. They recognize that Obama is using "fuzzy" math. They don't trust the numbers coming out of this Administration (does the phrases "jobs saved or created" and "if we don't pass tis bill, unemployment could go over 8%" ring any bells?).
The Democrats needed the Republicans at the Summit to appear frothing at the mouth, with bad questions, and nothing to add.
Instead, they got a group that more than held their own, and didn't look like the wild-eyed, "Party of No" that the Left has been painting them as.
I'd score it the same way as others have. Obama 1, GOP 1, Democrats 0.
Obama performed as expected. He's a great debater, and held his own (even though when the going got rough, he took his ball and went home from that questioner). He did have one "dick" moment, with John McCain. Totally unnecessary, and unbecoming of the President.
The GOP did a great job as well. Nicely crafted questions, put forth in an easy to understand manner for the television viewers. They presented their opposition in a clear, concise manner, while being respectful. If you knew nothing of this health care issue, and your first glimpse was this event, the GOP came off like a Party that had a strong grasp of the issues.
The Democrats (not including the President) came up way short. The ridiculous examples of constituents that had been affected by not having coverage was 100% for the cameras, and came up flat. The Denture story? Seriously? Stuff like that had no place in this forum. This was to hash out differences in the details that were blocking the bill from bipartisan support. Stories like Aunt Marge's dentures had no place in the discussion today. That belonged way back in the discussions on the floor. At the Town Hall meetings over recess. Not here. Had it been one instance, it could almost be looked over. But the Democrats in attendance seemed to be almost trying to outdo another Democrats tale of woe.
I'll point to the last paragraph as being one of the main reasons the current bill has so little support by the general public. Republicans have been pointing to questionable accounting practices, inability to explain the "math", and an overall concern on the people of how we pay for this entitlement. All Democrats seem to have been able to do is point to stories like Aunt Marge's dentures.
I don't know of anyone that doesn't want people to have quality health care. I don't know of anyone that wouldn't want Aunt Marge to have her own dentures, and not her sisters old set. What people on the far Left don't seem to understand is that at some point this all needs to be paid for.
The Democrats (again, not Obama) did a poor job arguing their case today. And that is why this bill will not pass.
Need more proof that the Summit wasn't a slam dunk for the Democrats? Check the front pages of CNN, MSNBC, CBS.
Not a whole lot of chatter about how Obama made his case, is there?
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